Comments on: Fun With Installers https:/2008/03/fun-with-installers/ Developer resources for the X-Plane flight simulator Tue, 01 Feb 2011 18:58:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Peter Meininger https:/2008/03/fun-with-installers/#comment-1134 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:44:00 +0000 http://www.x-plane.com/dev_blog/?p=378#comment-1134 Just updated to RC1 from within b25. It worked nicely.
(SantaRosa MBP 17″ / OS 10.5.2)

cheers
peter

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By: Paploo https:/2008/03/fun-with-installers/#comment-1135 Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:14:00 +0000 http://www.x-plane.com/dev_blog/?p=378#comment-1135 ben: Now that you’ve explained the full vision it makes sense. 🙂

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By: Benjamin Supnik https:/2008/03/fun-with-installers/#comment-1136 Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:43:00 +0000 http://www.x-plane.com/dev_blog/?p=378#comment-1136 Quino and Jens – the current installer has an option to turn off “rename when done”. Just turn it off!

I suspect the new installers andu updaters will not rename at all…we are moving toward having app version info in the startup screen, about box, and get-info/properties but not the app file name or folder name. (Get info on beta 25 – note the beta number is in the about box.)

Paploo: there is no technical problem with having a destination button…it’s a work flow problem. That destination button is the single largest cause of tech support calls we get.

Basically the problem is this: we have one application which is both a DOWNLOADER for the demo and an UPDATER for all products.

I agree completely that the downloader for the demo must let you customize install locations, and it will, just like most installers. Similarly the DVD installers will let you customize install location.

But the updater and the web-demo-installer are going to become separate applications. when this happens, the updater won’t need a destination button because it will always be launched by the x-plane that needs updating.*

* (If you have to get an updater from the web based on a dead app, THEN it will let you pick an x-system folder.)

The fundamental problem is that we have to take destination choice out of an update-existing operation.

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By: Jens https:/2008/03/fun-with-installers/#comment-1137 Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:46:00 +0000 http://www.x-plane.com/dev_blog/?p=378#comment-1137 worked fine here, updated my x-plane 9 beta24, living in y:\X-Plane 9.00.

It did not rename the folder afterwards because it could not, I keep a file open during updates to avoid that.

That is actually the only issue I have with x-plane updater: it renames the x-plane folder at the end. this breaks all kind of stuff: shortcuts on the desktop, goodway-preferences, my csl-manager prefs … Please include an option to NOT RENAME after an update.

The only other thing missing: restart X-plane after successful update 🙂

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By: Quino https:/2008/03/fun-with-installers/#comment-1138 Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:32:00 +0000 http://www.x-plane.com/dev_blog/?p=378#comment-1138 I had a problem with the x-plane folder name, that remained with ‘b24’. I think it was because I was sharing the x-plane folder with other computers in my LAN, and windows asks the user in order to change the folder name.

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By: Paploo https:/2008/03/fun-with-installers/#comment-1139 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:56:00 +0000 http://www.x-plane.com/dev_blog/?p=378#comment-1139 I would think that since the installer already allows you to specify an install location, and the install option from the About menu auto-sets what the install location should be, that it wouldn’t be a problem to leave in the install location selection area for the advanced users (including myself) that actually use this feature.

If you really felt the need to hide it, maybe there should be an ‘advanced mode’ button that brings it up with any warnings you feel are appropriate?

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By: Benjamin Supnik https:/2008/03/fun-with-installers/#comment-1140 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:49:00 +0000 http://www.x-plane.com/dev_blog/?p=378#comment-1140 Dan31 – You will be able to update and keep multiple x-system folders easily with the new system. Basically:

– To update any particular x-system folder, click the udpate button from the about box of that x-system folder.

– To make a copy of an x-system folder, just copy the whole folder in the finder/explorer, nothing more to do.

So…you don’t need the destination button. All you need to do is have two x-system folders and only pick update from the APPLICATION you really want updated.

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By: Dan31 https:/2008/03/fun-with-installers/#comment-1141 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:05:00 +0000 http://www.x-plane.com/dev_blog/?p=378#comment-1141 I don’t think removing the Destination bouton is a so good idea. I keep more than one folder of Xplane to be sure that the next update will not break my current version. And if so, i just have to delete the bad update.

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By: Austin G https:/2008/03/fun-with-installers/#comment-1142 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:42:00 +0000 http://www.x-plane.com/dev_blog/?p=378#comment-1142 All worked fine for me Ben – iMac 2.8 Intel Core 2 duo, Mac OS 10.5.2. It didn’t re-launch X-Plane after the install was complete, but I suspect it isn’t meant to.

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