Comments on: I Lost My Objects

By: Benjamin Supnik

Benjamin Supnik — Thu, 14 May 2009 09:37:00 +0000

DaveDuck – you couldn’t really “force” them to do anything….only do things that hopefully make it obvious what you want them to do.

In other words, in the old system if you left out the OSX stubs to try to encourage users to install OSX, a certain subset of your users would simply ignore any docs you wrote and report the “crash” (really an error message) as a bug in X-plane itself to us.

By: Austin G

Austin G — Thu, 14 May 2009 09:35:00 +0000

As a developer, if you want to force your users to realise that they are missing out on something, you could always modify the OpenSceneryX stub library so that instead of loading invisible objects, it loads objects that say "Please Install OpenSceneryX" in big red letters!

Note I'm not actually recommending this (OpenSceneryX is meant to be an optional download for users) but there is nothing actually stopping you from doing it.

A.

By: Dave Duck

Dave Duck — Sun, 03 May 2009 11:26:00 +0000

This is a welcome improvement. Occasionally I would see “missing object” errors in FS2XP conversions, why then required manually removal–and didn’t seem to affect the scenery in any meaningful way. Unfortunately, the downside is that now I can’t force users to install OpenSceneryX if it’s integral to my scenery package. Drat.

By: sothis

sothis — Fri, 01 May 2009 17:35:00 +0000

there are no fatal errors. either things work or things work not. that’s the simplicity of duality 🙂

By: Benjamin Supnik

Benjamin Supnik — Fri, 01 May 2009 16:22:00 +0000

Andras –

True! If a scenery pack uses OpenSceneryX an the author has OpenSceneryX installed, he would not notice the omission of the “stub” library. I think authors using OpenSceneryX need to be conscious of this situation.

By: alpilotx

alpilotx — Fri, 01 May 2009 15:01:00 +0000

Hi Ben,

Was just reading you musings about missing objects and your critique, how there could be a scenery where the author doesn't checks if all his objects are there ...

Well, nowadays I could well imagine such a case:
--> Think about OpenSceneryX !
That is a 3rd party (relative to the scenery designer) object packages ... And if the users forgets to install that (user error), or the author doesn't supply enough warnings (developer error) about it, well, you might easily end up with a lot of missing objects :-)

Andras