Comments on: Where’s Paris?

By: Jon Crane

Jon Crane — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:53:12 +0000

I notice the new beta #4 contains a fix for the Oahu realscenery.
I have this scenery but have avoided using anything other than the stock XP10 files so far. Can anyone explain the implications of using such legacy scenery with XP10?

By: Andras Fabian

Andras Fabian — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:29:32 +0000

chris: XP10 uses some but definitely not all aspects of OSM. And we definitely not use – for now – the building informations (where they are, what form they have etc.) or airport building information. The reason for this is, that even though, some airports or cities look good with the OSM data, there are still gazillion of other cities which do not have anything like this (or only in a very inconsistent way). Now think about it. What we do is a Global Scenery (read the first word 🙂 ) … This means, that we have to choose a process, that can generate a more or less usable scenery for the entire planet. Thus, using inconsistent sources (and heck, even the roads are far from trivial in OSM) is not a simple task … which is the reason why we avoided this for now (which doesn’t means, that we are not interested in using more from OSM in the future).

So. XP10 – for now – uses from OSM the road vector data, railroads, power line, river polygons (NOT line river segments) and coastlines. This is more or less the complete laundry list. Everything else comes from landuse data etc. …

Please red this blog entry i you want to get more in depth information about how this all works (its an interview I gave a few days ago to the Xplan10s Blog … about the global scenery!):
http://xplane10.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/developer-interview-andras-fabian-mr-x-terrain/

By: chris

chris — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:47:19 +0000

In reply to chris. the chris's below is not me ha

By: chris

chris — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:22:33 +0000

In reply to Ben Supnik. Thanks Ben, I have not and will not send it your email :)

By: chris

chris — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:48:30 +0000

BTW, I just saw that OSM also has aerodrome tagging, including terminals, gates, taxiways, aprons and runways. Not every airport seems to have been tagged properly. For instance, taxiway names are missing quite often. But you have them already. The outlines of terminals and hargar buildings (for placing facades) is quite consistent in quality. Any plans of importing these?

By: chris

chris — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:40:19 +0000

+1 for the missing buildings

The KSEA demo has just the sides of the streets populated with residential houses. But the area should have been a downtown block.

I thought the OSM data is properly flagged no? Doesn’t there exist an area with landuse=”totally_downtown_center” in between the roads, for example?

By: chris

chris — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:37:12 +0000

Is this bug also related to an accidental downgrade of Paris?
just asking of course hrhr

By: Ben Supnik

Ben Supnik — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:53:50 +0000

In reply to vonhinx. Yes.

By: Ben Supnik

Ben Supnik — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:53:38 +0000

In reply to chris.

Beta 4 today, yes. This will address the error codes and missing decals, the 5 tiles with no autogen.

Re: v9 sceneries and airport packs not showing up, I do not know about this.
If you have not filed a bug, please FILE A BUG.
If you have filed a bug, I will get it in the next day or two as it goes through the system.
DO NOT EMAIL ME DIRECTLY with bug reports.

By: Gregory

Gregory — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:48:48 +0000

In reply to Markus. Well, I meant that it would be nice to have some more beta testing before the official release date (eg. preorders and DVD making) so that XPlane 10.00 was much more playable than it is now. I personally think XPlane is probably the best airplane simulation right now and can't wait to have the same level of reliability as version 9.