Comments on: Merging the Installer and Updater

By: tom weber

tom weber — Tue, 06 Mar 2012 17:54:11 +0000

Hi Ben,
please remove the aerosoft demo installation from this installer – unless people want this – me not.
So it is not possible to use the nice streets without the little houses – did you ever see how London looks … ? To use only the streets would be a big improve, I think.
Reagards Tom

By: Ben Supnik

Ben Supnik — Mon, 05 Mar 2012 23:25:55 +0000

In reply to Baber. Please file a bug and we will take a look.

By: Baber

Baber — Mon, 05 Mar 2012 23:03:38 +0000

Hi, I am currently at Beta 6 but when I try to update to beta 7 I get stuck at this “I am contacting http://www.x-plane.com to find an update server” and then the installer does nothing. Sometimes it says that X-Plane 10 version is already up to date. I have checked the beta box so that the installer can detect beta 7. I am using the new installer which asks me for Dvd 1. After doing what it says, it tells me that my copy of version10 is up to date. It’s like the installer doesn’t detect any update. I think there might some proxy issue. Can’t update from within X-Plane either. Please help thanks.

By: vonhinx

vonhinx — Mon, 05 Mar 2012 17:02:36 +0000

In reply to Steve.

Very funny. I can’t count the number of times I’ve stopped my Backup .app because I forgot to slide the Global Scenery into the active XP folder in the backup drive. It’s even worse now that I keep two separate folders of Custom (downloaded) Scenery: One vetted for XP10 and one not.

I’d kill 9.70 now but I’m afraid Austin might take some time off to work on XP10, and I might have to go back to 9 for some “fixes.”

Okay… where do I send my crash log? Ah, I posted bits in the .org.

By: Ben Supnik

Ben Supnik — Mon, 05 Mar 2012 16:47:44 +0000

In reply to Greg Sheets. yeah we're fixing that now.

By: Greg Sheets

Greg Sheets — Mon, 05 Mar 2012 16:41:55 +0000

I have commercial USB keys, so can we get past the request to see the DVD disk again when I try to udate? DVD’s are stored off-site, for safe keeping.

Greg

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 05 Mar 2012 16:05:44 +0000

In reply to vonhinx. Caught it anyway, vonhinx. ;)

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 05 Mar 2012 16:03:48 +0000

In reply to vonhinx.

I do the same thing. I have scads of different XP9 versions.

If a user is astute, they learn how to point their global and custom scenery folders to common folders shared throughout all of their saved versions. This makes keeping up with the progression very easy, and rollbacks aren’t even needed.

The problem without this approach comes when someone has all of the global scenery installed and makes the mistake of trying to backup copy the whole enchilada. Even with terrabyte levels of disk storage, that can add up fast.

Therefore the rollback -1 idea is, frankly, for the less technically inclined user, something I think X-Plane is getting a lot more of as FSX development fades into history. MS Flight isn’t going to be a significant player in the serious flight sim community with its narrow geographic focus and overly simplistic controls.

By: Ben Supnik

Ben Supnik — Mon, 05 Mar 2012 15:47:25 +0000

In reply to Philipp Münzel.

Hi Philipp,

I am fixing the bug so that the installer/updater recognizes the same set of keys the sim does.
But generally, users _will_ need the same “authorization” device for the updater that they do for the installer. This is because the installer can now update NON-DEMO content off the net. Our theory is that if the installer and updater use the same authorization devices as the sim (and since the sim remembers the DVD for a while) this is going to be seamless in nearly all cases.

For non-purchasing demo users (that is, users who have never bought the sim), I am making the demo installer also update. The about box already does this, but this will provide a more explicit route to updates.

By: Philipp Münzel

Philipp Münzel — Mon, 05 Mar 2012 12:04:55 +0000

Hi Ben,

the Installer/Updater poses a problem to me: I don’t have a DVD, but a USB (beta) Key. So the updater is stuck at “Please insert X-Plane 10 DVD number one to begin…” and I can’t get any further.

Any advice other than driving 30mi to fetch my DVD at home?

Philipp