Comments on: Manipulators and the Scroll Wheel /2012/04/manipulators-and-the-scroll-wheel/ Developer resources for the X-Plane flight simulator Sat, 21 Apr 2012 11:35:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Valentin /2012/04/manipulators-and-the-scroll-wheel/#comment-4958 Sat, 21 Apr 2012 11:35:10 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4275#comment-4958 Hello.

I would have liked to change values with the mouse wheel. Why not implementing the feature and let the user decide to activate it or not?
The CAD System SolidEdge has this feature. You can change values (dimensions) with the mouse wheel. So much for “bad UI design”.

]]> By: Matthew /2012/04/manipulators-and-the-scroll-wheel/#comment-4954 Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:31:28 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4275#comment-4954 Laminar Research please listen to your users!

Mouse wheel for manipulating knobs works great in FSX with PMDG products, its intuitive!

Please give user option to use something else for zoom and thus mouse wheel for knob manipulation.

]]> By: vonhinx /2012/04/manipulators-and-the-scroll-wheel/#comment-4944 Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:55:14 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4275#comment-4944 In reply to Olivier Faivre.

Whether we get it or not, be careful of what you wish for. It’s not a cure-all. Prepare to get a sore finger scrolling the wheel to select altitude depending on the settings of the scroll-wheel-manipulator made by the dev. GIGO applies: a poor choice or implementation of any control method will still result in a poor user experience.

]]> By: Ben Supnik /2012/04/manipulators-and-the-scroll-wheel/#comment-4938 Fri, 20 Apr 2012 03:17:26 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4275#comment-4938 In reply to Alex.

No – the short-lived Clerks tv show…

]]> By: mark zanders /2012/04/manipulators-and-the-scroll-wheel/#comment-4937 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:54:54 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4275#comment-4937 In reply to mattp.

I must say I totally agree, this looks like the most intuitive and natural solution. Ben, please please give all of this a second thought!

]]> By: Kaan KASIM /2012/04/manipulators-and-the-scroll-wheel/#comment-4936 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:31:23 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4275#comment-4936 In reply to S Powell.

Agreed.

]]> By: Olivier Faivre /2012/04/manipulators-and-the-scroll-wheel/#comment-4935 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:59:47 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4275#comment-4935 Hello guys, Hello Ben,

I have nothing to add to otehr’s comments. As a dev and as a user, I would be more than happy if I can manipulate every command and knob with mouse wheel.
Manipulator are great, but not very intuitive or natural to me.
Some dev put up/down move, some left/right, etc…Lets get a standard with mouse wheel input, and a zoom behavior while pressing CTRL, like in ALL modern apps.

Cheers
Olivier

]]> By: vonhinx /2012/04/manipulators-and-the-scroll-wheel/#comment-4934 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 06:59:28 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4275#comment-4934 In reply to Daniel Klaue.

Maybe that should be:

If you consider the 2D drag in terms of the plane of your screen whilst looking left or right of center in a 3D cockpit, you force the mind to reject the 3D perspective. If you consider the 2D drag in terms of the virtual plane of the panel, a drag along any axis involves some drag along the other axis.

]]> By: vonhinx /2012/04/manipulators-and-the-scroll-wheel/#comment-4933 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 06:52:53 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4275#comment-4933 In reply to Daniel Klaue.

Yup, it works fine for your sunvisors. But when I look right, are the axes vertical and horizontal with respect to the plane of my screen or to the plane of the panel? In a 2D world, it’s always the screen; in a 3D world it’s not that obvious. If you take the screen view in the latter, you force the mind to reject the 3D view. If you take the latter view, a drag right while looking right has a vertical component.

]]> By: vonhinx /2012/04/manipulators-and-the-scroll-wheel/#comment-4932 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 06:46:29 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4275#comment-4932 In reply to Ben Supnik.

As obscure as lighting. Not a clue.

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