Comments on: Slow “Open” Dialogs…If you’re a hoarder. https:/2012/09/slow-open-dialogs-if-youre-a-hoarder/ Developer resources for the X-Plane flight simulator Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:39:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Chris Serio https:/2012/09/slow-open-dialogs-if-youre-a-hoarder/#comment-5894 Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:39:48 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4499#comment-5894 In reply to Barry Michael Wehrli.

Sorry Barry I think you’re right. Austin changed the way Open Dialogs worked in early 10.10 and broke things requiring users to restart before their aircraft would show up. Thats when people started to notice the slow down.

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By: Barry Michael Wehrli https:/2012/09/slow-open-dialogs-if-youre-a-hoarder/#comment-5892 Wed, 19 Sep 2012 05:17:13 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4499#comment-5892 “In prior versions, if you added a new aircraft into your Aircraft folder for example, you had to restart the sim for it to appear.” That’s not true. I had always been able to drop aircraft files into the aircraft folder with the sim open and the aircraft would appear in the aircraft list INSTANTLY, from somewhere in v8 all the way to 10.05. It was fine all along until v10.10 beta.

“…if you’re a hoarder and you have a HUGE amount of content in your X-Plane folder, you may notice a delay when opening new Aircraft/Airfoils/Objects etc. This delay always existed but it used to ONLY happen during sim load so it was hidden.” After 6+ years of nearly-daily x-plane.org visits, I’m a hoarder (though I don’t keep all my custom scenery in that folder – I myself created the “Custom Scenery (disabled)” folder; no plugin did it for me and it worked flawlessly until 10.10Beta). And there was never any delay when opening new aircraft or other folders.

“This is done intentionally as many users have asked for this behavior.” It’s hard to believe that others haven’t been getting this feature through previous generations. X-Plane always did these things on my system. That’s why I contacted you with a “bug” when it didn’t do what it had always done before.

Anyways it looks like there’s a solution to get me back to “status quo”. 😉

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By: vonhinx https:/2012/09/slow-open-dialogs-if-youre-a-hoarder/#comment-5884 Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:15:09 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4499#comment-5884 In reply to vonhinx.

Okay, the post swallows certain symbols. Should be:

“For shunts below n-mph the insurers saved money; for shunts above n-mph the extra cost of the bumpers nixed all the previous savings.”

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By: vonhinx https:/2012/09/slow-open-dialogs-if-youre-a-hoarder/#comment-5878 Sat, 15 Sep 2012 10:26:32 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4499#comment-5878 > This is done intentionally as many users have asked for this behavior.

Many users probably expected XP wouldn’t be hunting around for airplanes outside of the Aircraft folder. The problem reminds me of the n-mph bumpers automotive era. For shunts n-mph the extra costs of the bumpers nixed nixed all the savings.

These extra features cost more time and inconvenience than they save me. One workaround is hard and fast rules — any rules. Example: If an .acf is found in one folder, the probe won’t search another layer down for other aircraft. (That would miss the X-1 Cavallo because other .acf files are found inside the Experimental folder.) Oh well, one way or another we’ll find some modus vivendi.

Hoarders of Custom Scenery are another matter though. The single layer of haphazardly named folders makes thinning that folder temporarily down to continents or countries not worth the bother.

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By: rcmarple https:/2012/09/slow-open-dialogs-if-youre-a-hoarder/#comment-5877 Sat, 15 Sep 2012 09:04:43 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4499#comment-5877 So I’m a huge hoarder and was getting very frustrated with the aircraft load times on both XP and PM. Now I know why so thank you for the explanation! Time to do some tidying up and archiving of unused aircraft files and as I read the above, the good news is we can bring those files back into the sim without restarting X-Plane. dont_search_here.txt file is about to be deployed!

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By: Chris Serio https:/2012/09/slow-open-dialogs-if-youre-a-hoarder/#comment-5870 Sat, 15 Sep 2012 02:21:17 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4499#comment-5870 In reply to Flightime56.

Aircraft yes…I don’t think this is the case for scenery however. The feature is only for DIALOG population. The scenery system is different.

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By: Ben Supnik https:/2012/09/slow-open-dialogs-if-youre-a-hoarder/#comment-5869 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:54:22 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4499#comment-5869 And if you are wondering “why don’t we just scan folders as you open them?” remember: we prune from the tree any folders that have no airplanes in any of their children. So we have to scan up-front to provide this simplified view.

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By: chris https:/2012/09/slow-open-dialogs-if-youre-a-hoarder/#comment-5868 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:44:00 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4499#comment-5868 In reply to chris.

No need for reply feel free to delete the comments. Figured there was a discrepancy in the listing vs live feature. Just wanted to confirm that difference earlier in case the updater was flawed.

Thanks

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By: Flightime56 https:/2012/09/slow-open-dialogs-if-youre-a-hoarder/#comment-5867 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:16:10 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4499#comment-5867 Does this mean Chris if drop in a new (custom) scenery or aircraft and a livery while the sim is running when you check the list it will be available?

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By: chris https:/2012/09/slow-open-dialogs-if-youre-a-hoarder/#comment-5866 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 21:53:05 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4499#comment-5866 just downloaded the updater and ran it. It loads as either your xplane is up to date, or update to 10.10rc1 Is rc2 not live, the beta page shows? Thanks

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