Comments on: When the Sim Crashes, Send Us an Email Address! https:/2012/09/when-the-sim-crashes-send-us-an-email-address/ Developer resources for the X-Plane flight simulator Thu, 13 Sep 2012 07:05:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Nick Wood https:/2012/09/when-the-sim-crashes-send-us-an-email-address/#comment-5865 Thu, 13 Sep 2012 07:05:00 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4492#comment-5865 In reply to Ben Supnik.

That makes sense, I also assumed they were read just like bug reports. I still think you guys should incorporate bug reporting within the sim, at least for beta’s. That way a user could maybe enter things like email addresses once then any subsequent reports would automatically have them added, along with any automatically picked data.

This would be great because as soon as someone sees the bug in question they could make the report there and then and you would have the very last log files. You could even incorporate facility for a screen dump for visual bugs.

Hang on, i’m just making more work for you guys aren’t I?
cheers nick

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By: Ben Supnik https:/2012/09/when-the-sim-crashes-send-us-an-email-address/#comment-5863 Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:14:29 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4492#comment-5863 In reply to Jim Zane (JazAero).

Hi Jim,

Oh boy. The automatic crash reporter is _not_ like the bug reporter. Someone reads every bug report that is submitted. Some get thrown out (E.g. if you write “f u you big fat pigs” Chris is just going to hit delete”) and some go to tech support, but there’s a human on the end.

Not so with the crash reporter. We look at the crash reporter _statistically_ – we have a script that buckets crashes and we then look at the most common ones first. Since we’re struggling to get bugs fixed in the RC, I am behind at looking at crashes. But also, your crashes are all deep in the NV driver – and some have a completely trashed stack, which makes them not pop out in the ‘common crashes’ search.

I’ll email you off-blog later, but it never occurred to me (and perhaps not to Chris) that users would think that every crash report is run by engineering or tech support.

(In particular, if we find a SET of crashes with the same signature and we look at one, find the bug and fix it, we often don’t even look at the other ones…we assume that the crash is one bug, put the fix out, then re-measure.)

cheers
ben

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By: Ben Supnik https:/2012/09/when-the-sim-crashes-send-us-an-email-address/#comment-5861 Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:06:19 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4492#comment-5861 In reply to Bryan.

You did right to file it on the bug report form. I gotta discourage re-posting bug reports to the blog. I am getting killed with users sending copies of bugs to my email, the blog, etc.

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By: Bryan https:/2012/09/when-the-sim-crashes-send-us-an-email-address/#comment-5860 Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:02:44 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4492#comment-5860 In reply to Ben Supnik.

I disagree with the deleted post on this blog, but you own it so you can do whatever you want. I thought my post was relevant to the discussion. It was a feature enhancement request–not a bug per se.

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By: Jim Zane (JazAero) https:/2012/09/when-the-sim-crashes-send-us-an-email-address/#comment-5859 Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:54:11 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4492#comment-5859 Ben: let me first start off by saying what a great job you guys do. But I do have a question. You asked for e-mail addresses in the bug reports. At this time I have probably sent over 20 or 30 reports for the same issue I have even begged for reply, I know you guys are busy but could you possibly send me an e-mail or at least an update to your blog regarding the HDR crash issue. I’m not one of these people who posts all the time, I try not to bother you guys since I know how busy you are. But as a former I.T. Professional it just bugs me not knowing the reason why something doesn’t work. If you would like I would send you a copy of the aircraft were currently working on. We posted screenshots on X-Plane’s Facebook forum under JazAero and would love to hear your thoughts when you have some time.
Thanks for listening
Jim

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By: Heiko https:/2012/09/when-the-sim-crashes-send-us-an-email-address/#comment-5856 Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:39:30 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4492#comment-5856 a little bit off topic. in a post a while ago, you asked for platform independend technology for a new ui. ever considered to use html5 ? apart from low-level os access to apis for joystick settings, it provides everything required for great interfaces to select aircrafts, airports, maps, integrate checklists etc. E.g. it would also allow to change settings via smart devices…

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By: SqrtOfNegOne https:/2012/09/when-the-sim-crashes-send-us-an-email-address/#comment-5855 Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:51:02 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4492#comment-5855 In reply to Ben Supnik.

That was quick! 🙂

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By: Ben Supnik https:/2012/09/when-the-sim-crashes-send-us-an-email-address/#comment-5854 Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:48:06 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4492#comment-5854 In reply to SqrtOfNegOne.

That was added in response to his comment. 😉

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By: SqrtOfNegOne https:/2012/09/when-the-sim-crashes-send-us-an-email-address/#comment-5852 Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:38:19 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4492#comment-5852 In reply to carrotroot.

Check out the second link given at the upper right corner of this page under “Useful Links.”

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By: carrotroot https:/2012/09/when-the-sim-crashes-send-us-an-email-address/#comment-5851 Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:36:09 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=4492#comment-5851 Hi Ben, could you put a link to the Bug Report on the side of the blog? As it is we kinda have to dig through some older posts to find the link. Thanks

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