Comments on: If It’s Not Blue, You Know What To Do

By: Ben Supnik

Ben Supnik — Thu, 18 Apr 2013 21:16:33 +0000

In reply to Dr Ropeless. I've been avoiding that. The reason: the rendering currently can 'overlay' water (e.g. via a polygon) with complete accuracy, but we have features that are already in the lab stage that we want to someday ship that would -not- work with this. So I'm trying to avoid releasing an extension to the scenery system that would conflict with future work.

By: Dr Ropeless

Dr Ropeless — Thu, 18 Apr 2013 06:54:01 +0000

In reply to Hypersonic test pilot. What would be nice is if there was a pol directive that said, "this poly should really look like water."

By: Hypersonic test pilot

Hypersonic test pilot — Wed, 17 Apr 2013 02:42:45 +0000

“There’s actually a forth reason: intentional removal of water that we thought was too small/detailed for the data size of the global scenery. In that cases there’s nothing to be done to put it back — the global scenery has to be able to cover the whole world without being too many tens of GB.”
Not entirely true, small missing water that users wish in their scenery but not deemed large enough to warrant the data addition can be done in scenery packages using a .pol set to water. you need to make a water texture and it wont reflect but i’ve had great success with water .pol files as long as the terrain in level.
I even think you can set surface attr to water but am yet to try and dip a sea king in a roof top swimming pool.

By: mroe

mroe — Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:22:18 +0000

In reply to Peter Meininger. +1 should be named. EDDP :) gruss mroe

By: Ben Supnik

Ben Supnik — Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:52:22 +0000

In reply to Peter Meininger. Too soon - we gotta walk before we run.

By: Peter Meininger

Peter Meininger — Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:44:10 +0000

Ben, What about airports built partially on water like Macao (VMMC)? osm map airliners.net photo It would be awesome if there was a taxiway-bridge object in the library. There are quite a few airports where it would come handy. It could even be used to bridge ravines or highways. EHAM, KJFK, LGGW, MMUN, RJBB to name just a few. The current state of Macao International is eye-watering, JFK could win substantially if the taxiway would pass over the highway. I'm aware this often needs dsf mesh changes and a bridge to produce convincing results but wouldn't now be a perfect time to lay the groundwork? cheers peter

By: Ben Supnik

Ben Supnik — Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:04:09 +0000

In reply to my50cent. Yes, 2011. The product shipped in November of 2011, so we took the last raw import in July of 2011. We didn't take small imports after that because we didn't want to introduce unknown issues at the last minute. So we're taking an update now.

By: my50cent

my50cent — Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:05:42 +0000

Hi Ben,

i really apreciate X-Plane 10 and your efforts to make things better.
Did i understand it right you said that the osm data is from 2011?

I just wondering why you don’t do some small updates from time to time. Would make the environment much better…

By: Ben Supnik

Ben Supnik — Wed, 10 Apr 2013 01:59:54 +0000

In reply to Dr Ropeless. Right now the only third party option is the nuclear one: recut the whole DSF mesh tile with new custom water polygons. Once we get the first round of recuts done, _then_ if the water is still missing, this would be a good thing to file.

By: Ben Supnik

Ben Supnik — Wed, 10 Apr 2013 01:58:44 +0000

In reply to chris. As I said in the previous posts on recuts, please do _not_ report OSM issues right now. We have a lot of bugs to work through before we will be ready to accept new bugs.