Comments on: A Gateway Outage and a New WED Build https:/2015/05/a-gateway-outage-and-a-new-wed-build/ Developer resources for the X-Plane flight simulator Sat, 30 May 2015 13:26:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Ben Supnik https:/2015/05/a-gateway-outage-and-a-new-wed-build/#comment-10696 Sat, 30 May 2015 13:26:20 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=6293#comment-10696 In reply to Mike.

When I last looked at this, even a ‘business’ license wasn’t an option.

The problem is that users will use the background imagery to -trace- vector features in their scenery, so we would need a license that allows companies not only to -use- the data (e.g. see it and make judgments in a business) but to make a -derived copy- of it, and Google is much less willing to let people do this, because this is a license to duplicate the database. So just “google maps for business” isn’t quite enough.

Mapping services for business are typically aimed at the high-value non-copying uses of maps. For example, most map providers will give you (a single user) GPS directions for free…but if you run a fleet of trucks, they want a lot of money for this. That’s google maps for business, not actually copying the database.

The one rare exception was OSM, which has negotiated tracing/copying rights from aerial imagery from both Yahoo and Microsoft at one point…they’re a very high profile fully FOSS project. We’d need a license like that. Since WED is very x-plane-centric, it seems like a tough sell.

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By: Mike https:/2015/05/a-gateway-outage-and-a-new-wed-build/#comment-10694 Sat, 30 May 2015 04:51:20 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=6293#comment-10694 In reply to Ben Supnik.

It is possible but not free, and I am willing to purchase the software with this feature. Google maps got a unit for maps API for business. It is called Google maps for work.

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By: Ben Supnik https:/2015/05/a-gateway-outage-and-a-new-wed-build/#comment-10693 Sat, 30 May 2015 00:42:07 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=6293#comment-10693 In reply to Mike.

We can’t do that unless you can find a mapping layer that’s legal to trace from.

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By: Mike https:/2015/05/a-gateway-outage-and-a-new-wed-build/#comment-10691 Fri, 29 May 2015 21:50:50 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=6293#comment-10691 WED is great and I used it to create airports. One thing I wish that WED could do is to load Google maps or any other mapping tool “by default” in the background layout with the ability to zoom all the way in and out. Not sure if this is even possible, but if this is done it will be a HUGE feature to build airports, streets and cities as well.

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By: Alex D. https:/2015/05/a-gateway-outage-and-a-new-wed-build/#comment-10690 Fri, 29 May 2015 19:38:26 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=6293#comment-10690 In reply to Ben Supnik.

Sound goooooood thank you!

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By: Ben Supnik https:/2015/05/a-gateway-outage-and-a-new-wed-build/#comment-10688 Fri, 29 May 2015 13:55:57 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=6293#comment-10688 In reply to Alex D..

Possible, yes! Not for 1.4 – 1.4 is being closed up.

But the same tool that makes ATC routes can be used for roads – the code is partly done, so perhaps I can complete this for 1.5.

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By: Ben Supnik https:/2015/05/a-gateway-outage-and-a-new-wed-build/#comment-10687 Fri, 29 May 2015 13:55:31 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=6293#comment-10687 In reply to Tom Knudsen.

They are very different. Taxi lines result in a mesh of triangles – and we can handle large-vertex-count meshes just fine. Plus they -must- be curved – this is how the real world works.

The cost of exclusion zones is the cost of the number of edges – so turning the bezier into a lot of tiny edges will make the exclusion zones quite slow…the same as having a huge number of tiny rectangle ones now.

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By: Alex D. https:/2015/05/a-gateway-outage-and-a-new-wed-build/#comment-10686 Fri, 29 May 2015 11:07:40 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=6293#comment-10686 Good news.
Posibility to “draw” roads in wed soon?

Thank you!

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By: Tom Knudsen https:/2015/05/a-gateway-outage-and-a-new-wed-build/#comment-10684 Thu, 28 May 2015 20:11:01 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=6293#comment-10684 In reply to Ben Supnik.

Thanks, but what is the difference between bezier curves on taxiways/taxi lines and exclude zones? Is it that it is not implemented or is it because it cannot be implemented?

Is it possible to make a exclude tool with polygonal features..

A wish full idea is to have 1 tool that has multiple polygonal features like object, exclude and flatten

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By: Ben Supnik https:/2015/05/a-gateway-outage-and-a-new-wed-build/#comment-10682 Thu, 28 May 2015 16:50:09 +0000 http://xplanedev.wpengine.com/?p=6293#comment-10682 In reply to Tom Knudsen.

No.

Since X-Plane doesn’t have polygon exclude, WED can’t write it.

If we do ever have polygon exclude, there is virtually no chance that it will support bezier curves; it would just be flat-sided polygons.

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