Comments on: X-Plane 11.50 Beta 15: Are We There Yet? https:/2020/07/x-plane-11-50-beta-15-are-we-there-yet/ Developer resources for the X-Plane flight simulator Thu, 23 Jul 2020 21:52:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Ben Supnik https:/2020/07/x-plane-11-50-beta-15-are-we-there-yet/#comment-38140 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 21:52:45 +0000 http://developer.x-plane.com/?p=39975#comment-38140 In reply to Alejandro Rodriguez.

I looked up your bug. The ivao_pilot pilot is crashing because it is creating and destroying instanced objects on a worker thread. I am trying to find the author to send them the back traces, but I don’t know who the dev is and they’re not in our dev-rel program.

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By: Alejandro Rodriguez https:/2020/07/x-plane-11-50-beta-15-are-we-there-yet/#comment-38132 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 19:59:11 +0000 http://developer.x-plane.com/?p=39975#comment-38132 Dear X-plane team,
Beta14 worked fine for me. However, after updating beta 15 , fps dropped dramatically. With beta 15, xplane always turner off (no log was ever created) while loading the first time and it worked after a second attempt. With beta 16, things have gotten worst as every time I try to play it crashes and several reports have been sent by me. The only solution to continue playing (apart from reinstalling x plane) has been overwrite the x-plane.exe from the previous beta. I am sure you are working hard to solve these issues. Just a request. Would there be the possibility in the short future of being able to select the most stable beta for each user until a stable version comes to light?

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By: Chris Hansen https:/2020/07/x-plane-11-50-beta-15-are-we-there-yet/#comment-38123 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:35:06 +0000 http://developer.x-plane.com/?p=39975#comment-38123 Ben,
no camera talk, I promised ( I cry inside but understand…)
The matter of “above matter” is to help heli pilots using SAR, lifting etc.

Could we instead have a distance-from-one-object-to-another ref then?
As eg. “distance from lifting hook to this user made object”?
That could even be shown as pure text (or with very simple graphics)?

Please imagine how this could be used for helicopter pilots in a lot of ways.
Not stealing FPS, (sounds) simple to implement, more for helicopter pilots to have fun with? 🙂

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By: Ben Supnik https:/2020/07/x-plane-11-50-beta-15-are-we-there-yet/#comment-38122 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:09:52 +0000 http://developer.x-plane.com/?p=39975#comment-38122 In reply to Johan.

Well, I had heard from AMD that they see major instability with AMD cards when they are overclocked – in particular with X-Plane, we weren’t pushing the cards in GL due to CPU-side slowness…so one might overclock the card and maybe not have as much trouble in Vulkan. OC is one of those things where if you have stability issues, it’s the first thing to back off of.

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By: Johan https:/2020/07/x-plane-11-50-beta-15-are-we-there-yet/#comment-38121 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 15:44:40 +0000 http://developer.x-plane.com/?p=39975#comment-38121 In reply to Ben Supnik.

Thanks Ben, haven’t changed anything (ootb settings) but I will double check. In your opinion that’s the direction to look to?

Many thanks!

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By: Ben Supnik https:/2020/07/x-plane-11-50-beta-15-are-we-there-yet/#comment-38120 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 15:30:04 +0000 http://developer.x-plane.com/?p=39975#comment-38120 In reply to Johan.

Honestly, I don’t think there’s any value in reporting this – “Vulkan driver causes my computer to reboot” isn’t something we can do anything about, because we can’t reproduce that with our hardware.

Have you adjusted the clock rate of your AMD card?

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By: Ben Supnik https:/2020/07/x-plane-11-50-beta-15-are-we-there-yet/#comment-38119 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 15:28:55 +0000 http://developer.x-plane.com/?p=39975#comment-38119 In reply to David Henricsson.

I don’t think so – blitting the results to the companion window is very, very cheap.

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By: Ben Supnik https:/2020/07/x-plane-11-50-beta-15-are-we-there-yet/#comment-38118 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 15:28:34 +0000 http://developer.x-plane.com/?p=39975#comment-38118 In reply to Bernd L..

We are not _ignoring_ 2020. But we aren’t _talking_ about our future plans either. The timing of the product releases is what it is – we don’t have control of when they ship.

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By: Ben Supnik https:/2020/07/x-plane-11-50-beta-15-are-we-there-yet/#comment-38117 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 15:26:59 +0000 http://developer.x-plane.com/?p=39975#comment-38117 In reply to jim zane.

Well, the Expo moved around – Vegas, but then Orlando…I don’t know what will happen in the future, as in-person conferences are all canceled now. But yeah, the north east was great for me. 🙂

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By: Johan https:/2020/07/x-plane-11-50-beta-15-are-we-there-yet/#comment-38116 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 14:58:09 +0000 http://developer.x-plane.com/?p=39975#comment-38116 Dear X-Plane team, silent user of X-plane here and been trying out the Betas since b9 or so. Love your work, please keep it up!

I have an issue I like to mention, not sure others have it and not quite sure if/how I can report it.

When using Vulkan on my PC during almost every flight at some point X-plane crashes (can be 1 minute in or 5 or 30), not a CTD but rather screen goes black, white noise from speakers and after a few seconds a spontaneous reboot. Problem is that there’s nothing (I can see) in the log file and also no crash-reports so how should I report this as a bug? BTW this opnly occurs using Vulkan, OpenGL runs fine (also the betas).

Fwiw I’m running on an AMD Ryzen7 3700X, 32GB RAM and Radeon RX 5700XT video card. Use the Zibo 737 and Simheaven Europe scenery.

I am suspecting the AMD GPU drivers, went back to 20.4.2 but it’s still happening.

Should I file a report and if yes, anything else besides the logfile to include?

Many thanks, Johan

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